Dan Tone and Arizona's First Nighttime Lion Since 2011 Rule Changes

Just 2.5 weeks after we reported the new Arizona nighttime hunting regulations for mountain lions on THIS POST, Dave Martens of Wildlife Callers and Dan Tone (who’s been featured on the WC Blog before) set out in one of the nighttime lion hunting areas and connected with a mature 7-9 year old female cougar – the actual age will be determined by the AZ Game & Fish.  The lion took about 30-32 minutes to arrive on the stand and came to a mixed bag of sounds.  Here are some of the details:

Arizona Mountain Lion and Deuce the Lion Calling Jack Russel

Locations:  When you think of nighttime lion hunting think of bighorn sheep.  Heavy lion predation has long been a issue for bighorn herd growth and sustainability around AZ.  Accordingly the locations in AZ for hunting lions at night have been chosen by the AZ Game & Fish biologists to provide the most relief to the Desert and Rocky Mountain Bighorn populations.  There isn’t a hunt unit listed in the Arizona Game and Fish lion hunting regulations that we haven’t scouted or hunted, and not found lion sign in.  Actually, we’ve called lions in many of the special units, so to answer the obvious question “where is the best place to go find lions” — all of the special bag units have lions — actually the whole state has lions.

Sounds:  Dave’s calling style is typically mix-it-up and throw out an active multi-critter sound scene for the predator to get interested in.  We’ve said it here before – you can’t confuse a lion by playing sounds that typically don’t go together – they’re not that smart.  Thus, when you create a completely unbelievable sound scene by playing ten minutes of mixed rabbit & small bird distress, followed by several minutes of deer fights and deer distress, followed by javelina sounds and distress, the lion never says ‘hey…I know that would NEVER happen in nature.”  It’s just sound stimulus – nothing more – there are no bad sounds. Mix it up.

Dan Tone, Deuce, and an AZ Mountain Lion

The Caller:  As is always the case, Dave was using his Wildlife Technologies Mighty Atom 21.  If you haven’t heard one, do yourself a favor and give us a call — truly amazing.

The Hunt:  Dave & Dan chose the calling location based on past experience in the area.  Dave has called near the area before and seen plenty of sign along the long ridge lines and hardpan wash bottoms the area is known for.  They kept the caller less than 20 yards away from them when they set up along the side of a dry wash.  The moon was nearly full and visibility was pretty good.  The plan was to, if possible, leave their spotlights & high intensity flashlights off until a lion was spotted or something was heard nearby that needed lighted investigation.

Dave had been playing his varied & lengthy list of sounds for about 30 minutes when the form of a solitary lion was spotted walking toward the speaker.  The lion arrived on Dan’s side of the caller and was closing toward the speaker in a deliberate and unhurried fashion.  Dan raised his 12 gauge and waited patiently while the lion continued to close on the speaker.  The lone lion eventually cut the distance to the speaker down to just 6-yards and came to a stop.  Dan activated the high-intensity light mounted on his shotgun and looked at the lion for a few seconds.  He immediately confirmed what he already knew, the lion was a large, mature cougar.  Boom! Dan shot the lion with a load of #4 buckshot and at just 19-20 yards away it was killed immediately.

Good View of the Large Shoulders and Head on the Lion

Night Calling Logistics:  Dan said that hunting lions at night should continue to be more and more productive as they learn more about doing it and better ways to set up.  But, he cautioned, the logistics of calling after the sun goes down are more complex than in daylight.  He said that something as small as a poorly designed spotlight or a flashlight that’s not bright enough can ruin a stand.  Stand selection takes longer.  Walking to the stand takes longer.  Tripping hazards with guns, callers, and extra gear makes things interesting.  And oftentimes once you’ve set up and think you’re in a good spot, you turn on the light only to find you really have almost zero visibility and have to move.

Takeaways:  Scouting and field experience cannot be underestimated.  Dave has spent many hours in this area scouting for lion sign, using trail cameras to confirm hunches, and calling during the daytime when it wasn’t legal to call at night.  His expertise and knowledge really paid off.

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Mark Healy- Wildlife Callers

The Flextone ECHO eR1 is a new e-caller for the 2010-2011 predator hunting season, but with little more than a month of service in the hunting field, our customers are telling us this compact remote controlled call sounds great, is easy to use, and above all is calling coyotes to their stands.  The Flextone ECHO HD comes preloaded with 100 calling sounds.  More than 90 of the sounds are from Wildlife Technologies and sound very clear—just what you’d expect from a WT sound.  Most of our customers are buying it for predator hunting, but several have been sent to guys intending to use the generous number of deer sounds for calling big bucks.  CLICK HERE to view the sound list.

You can CLICK HERE to view the caller in our Wildlife Callers’ store.

Flextone Echo HD eR1 Predator call and Game Caller

Game Warden Note: Make sure using an electronic call is legal in your area for both predators and big game animals!  It likely is for predators, but might not be for deer—double check your local regulations.

I’ve taken the Flextone ECHO HD out for some field testing with the remote control.  The remote contol has an LCD readout that’s back-lit for night hunting and shows the caller’s volume level on the readout.  The manufacturer states the remote will work up to 300 yards.  If you’re a predator hunter who’s used a remote controlled caller, then you’re likely aware that the advertised effective yardage of the remote control is almost always less in real-world calling setups.  I set the caller up in various positions in rocks, heavy brush, and tall grass, at 20, 50, 75, and 100 yards and from a seated position was able to effectively change sounds, change the volume, and mute the caller without any hesitation from the machine.  The remote has a spot on one of the lower corners to attach a lanyard, reducing the chances of dropping or losing it.

Flextone Echo HD eR1 Top View and Remote Control View

The ECHO eR1 comes with a black carry strap and sports bi-directional twin speakers for maximum volume from the 8AA battery power pack that runs the unit.  You can use the speakers individually or both at the same time.  The remote control is stored in a docking & charging station on the side of the caller.  The caller comes with a 110v charging cord that plugs right into the side of the caller and charges the power pack and the remote at the same time.  The remote control for the eR1 uses a flat Li-Ion rechargeable battery pack that took a while for us to find, but we eventually did.  CLICK HERE to see the battery for the remote control.

Battery Note: The AA batteries that came with the unit charged up just fine, but didn’t last as long as we expected they should.  We bought a set of Energizer AA rechargeable batteries, put them in the caller, charged it overnight, and then let it play for more than 12 hours at volume 2.  The battery life of the unit is great—so long as you use a quality set of batteries.

Overall, the Flextone ECHO HD eR1 is a well thought out, great sounding predator call and game calling machine in the caller class that it’s designed to compete in—actually it costs less and hunters tell us it sounds as good or better than the callers it was designed to compete with.  With a functional & useful remote control and good hunting reports coming in from satisfied customers, this new caller will continue making quick inroads into the e-caller market space.   The next thing to test is the longevity of the machines in field service.  That’s happening all over the US and Canada right now.  Only time will answer that question.

If you have any questions or if you’d like an ECHO HD eR1 sound demo just give us a call.

Good hunting to all,

Justin shot us an e-mail to let us know and we thought we’d share their story with you. Justin writes: “Finally success! Tyler drilled this fox at 11 yards away (33 feet for you math impaired).  Double lung shot.  Don’t know if I’ll sleep tonight, but it was worth it!”

“After Tyler killed the fox last night we set it out about 300 yards from our camper. This morning we checked it and no fox!  Whatever grabbed it didn’t drag it and didn’t eat it there because there was no fur on surrounding areas. My guess is a coyote, large bobcat or mountain lion. 

Speaking of bobcat, Tyler and I called one on our second stand of today!  It came in FAST. I spotted it about 20 yards away, at a nice quick trot. My eyes lit up like a Christmas tree, Tyler sees my face, swings his head around and the bobcat spots us! The bobcat is a little too close in the line of fire to Tyler, so I couldn’t get a clear shot. The bobcat stays locked on us for about 20-30 seconds, crouches and takes off like a shot. I quickly stand up and move to my left, but he was making excellent use of cover and I couldn’t get a clear shot with my shotgun. CRAAAAP. 

Next stand we call a fox in immediately but I don’t see him until he’s cracking twigs on the way outta dodge. 2 shots from the old 12 gauge at a rapidly fleeing fox and I couldn’t close the deal. Double CRAAAP, but oh what a morning!!!!   3 stands and 2 called animals. It’s like an animal zoo up here. I love it!  Highly addictive, this hunting is. Have a great weekend brothers!

Justin”

Thanks for the story Justin, We really appreciate our readers sharing their predator calling stories with us. Now that the season is starting to get under way, we hope that you have fun out there and we encourage everyone to shoot us an e-mail with YOUR predator calling stories, we’re happy to write up the story in your own words!

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Good calling to everyone!

Marc Reindell

marc@wildlifecallers.com

Rich Higgins, well known coyote behavior expert, and others will be conducting seminars and clinics on proper calling techniques for the beginning predator caller, but seasoned callers may be interested in attending as well.

Seminars will cover:

• Proper set up
• Firearm selection
• Stand selection
• Rules and Regs for predator hunting in AZ
• Sounds used for calling and why
• Use of ladders for calling in heavy brush

Directions to the bootcamp are as follows: Take 87 north through Payson and Strawberry. 6 or 7 miles past Clints Well, just past the Blue Ridge Ranger station, go east on FR 95. About a mile in take FR 513 to the left and follow it to the Boot Camp site. Signs will be posted as well to guide you to the site. Camping will be available for those that may want to head up Friday evening and stay for the weekend.

You may also want to attend: The AZ State Calling Contest that will be held at Cabela’s in Glendale, AZ on Saturday, August 28th at 3PM. Registration for the event begins at 10 AM and a seminar on Intro to Predator Calling will be held at 11 AM.

For more info on both events, contact Rich Higgins at 480-474-7581.

A good way to get out of the hot desert and get yourself geared up for the upcoming season!

Good hunting!

Marc Reindell

marc@wildlifecallers.com

Based on a legal technicality regarding ESA (endangered species act) stating that de-listing of a species cannot be done on a state by state basis, the management of the species by Montana and Idaho were shot down.  Wyoming did not propose a wolf management plan based on the fact that Wyoming does not classify the wolf as a big game species. Wyoming lists the wolf as a predator and allows for the trapping and killing on sight of wolves throughout most of the state. As a result, wolves were not de-listed in Wyoming last year and Wyoming did not propose anything different for this year either. 

This is a very good article written by Keith McCafferty for Field and Stream magazine on what can be done to try to possibly reverse this ruling in the future:  Who’s to Blame for Wolf Reinstatement(and What You Can Do About It)

We encourage our readers to write to the appropriate people in Wyoming (and other states that have Wolf populations, however minor) mentioned in the article and encourage them to change their way of thinking.

We don’t want to see the SSS (shoot, shovel and shut up) mentality take over, our sport, and hunting in general is already being attacked.  This would only give the “anti-hunter” people even more fuel to attack our right to hunt and our ability to pass traditions along to our children.

We will continue to pass along any information about this subject as we get it.

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Good hunting!

Marc Reindell

marc@wildlifecallers.com