Dan Tone and Arizona's First Nighttime Lion Since 2011 Rule Changes

Just 2.5 weeks after we reported the new Arizona nighttime hunting regulations for mountain lions on THIS POST, Dave Martens of Wildlife Callers and Dan Tone (who’s been featured on the WC Blog before) set out in one of the nighttime lion hunting areas and connected with a mature 7-9 year old female cougar – the actual age will be determined by the AZ Game & Fish.  The lion took about 30-32 minutes to arrive on the stand and came to a mixed bag of sounds.  Here are some of the details:

Arizona Mountain Lion and Deuce the Lion Calling Jack Russel

Locations:  When you think of nighttime lion hunting think of bighorn sheep.  Heavy lion predation has long been a issue for bighorn herd growth and sustainability around AZ.  Accordingly the locations in AZ for hunting lions at night have been chosen by the AZ Game & Fish biologists to provide the most relief to the Desert and Rocky Mountain Bighorn populations.  There isn’t a hunt unit listed in the Arizona Game and Fish lion hunting regulations that we haven’t scouted or hunted, and not found lion sign in.  Actually, we’ve called lions in many of the special units, so to answer the obvious question “where is the best place to go find lions” — all of the special bag units have lions — actually the whole state has lions.

Sounds:  Dave’s calling style is typically mix-it-up and throw out an active multi-critter sound scene for the predator to get interested in.  We’ve said it here before – you can’t confuse a lion by playing sounds that typically don’t go together – they’re not that smart.  Thus, when you create a completely unbelievable sound scene by playing ten minutes of mixed rabbit & small bird distress, followed by several minutes of deer fights and deer distress, followed by javelina sounds and distress, the lion never says ‘hey…I know that would NEVER happen in nature.”  It’s just sound stimulus – nothing more – there are no bad sounds. Mix it up.

Dan Tone, Deuce, and an AZ Mountain Lion

The Caller:  As is always the case, Dave was using his Wildlife Technologies Mighty Atom 21.  If you haven’t heard one, do yourself a favor and give us a call — truly amazing.

The Hunt:  Dave & Dan chose the calling location based on past experience in the area.  Dave has called near the area before and seen plenty of sign along the long ridge lines and hardpan wash bottoms the area is known for.  They kept the caller less than 20 yards away from them when they set up along the side of a dry wash.  The moon was nearly full and visibility was pretty good.  The plan was to, if possible, leave their spotlights & high intensity flashlights off until a lion was spotted or something was heard nearby that needed lighted investigation.

Dave had been playing his varied & lengthy list of sounds for about 30 minutes when the form of a solitary lion was spotted walking toward the speaker.  The lion arrived on Dan’s side of the caller and was closing toward the speaker in a deliberate and unhurried fashion.  Dan raised his 12 gauge and waited patiently while the lion continued to close on the speaker.  The lone lion eventually cut the distance to the speaker down to just 6-yards and came to a stop.  Dan activated the high-intensity light mounted on his shotgun and looked at the lion for a few seconds.  He immediately confirmed what he already knew, the lion was a large, mature cougar.  Boom! Dan shot the lion with a load of #4 buckshot and at just 19-20 yards away it was killed immediately.

Good View of the Large Shoulders and Head on the Lion

Night Calling Logistics:  Dan said that hunting lions at night should continue to be more and more productive as they learn more about doing it and better ways to set up.  But, he cautioned, the logistics of calling after the sun goes down are more complex than in daylight.  He said that something as small as a poorly designed spotlight or a flashlight that’s not bright enough can ruin a stand.  Stand selection takes longer.  Walking to the stand takes longer.  Tripping hazards with guns, callers, and extra gear makes things interesting.  And oftentimes once you’ve set up and think you’re in a good spot, you turn on the light only to find you really have almost zero visibility and have to move.

Takeaways:  Scouting and field experience cannot be underestimated.  Dave has spent many hours in this area scouting for lion sign, using trail cameras to confirm hunches, and calling during the daytime when it wasn’t legal to call at night.  His expertise and knowledge really paid off.

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Mark Healy- Wildlife Callers

Carl and I were on stand and had been calling for approximately 15 minutes with no results.  Suddenly, I spotted a single coyote cresting the low hill across from us. From 350 yards out, it proceeded to run straight into our setup.

My Wildlife Technologies electronic caller was situated well below us on the hillside and we had good cover against some large boulders.  The wind was also in our favor.

Glancing to my left, I could see Carl’s rifle leveled out and he was leaning into the scope.  Good — he had seen it also.

While easing my rifle into position for a shot at the incoming coyote, Carl fired his rifle.  Hearing the shot, the coyote I was watching pivoted and ran sideways at full speed.  Carl fired at it a couple of times and missed as it ran away.  I fired once and also missed.

When the dust settled, I stood up and said, “It got away.  Why didn’t you wait for it to come closer and stop moving before firing?”  Carl got a funny look on his face and calmly replied, “Dad, this stand was a double!  There’s a coyote on the ground out there.  My first shot took it out.  Didn’t you see it?”

Oops!  I hadn’t even seen the other coyote.  Better get my eyes checked.

We walked out and searched the brush for a few minutes.  Sure enough, a coyote was down.

I laser ranged back to the rock pile where we were sitting to be certain of the distance — 252 yards.  Nice shot Carl!

Idaho Coyote, September 2011, Remington R-15 VTR Carbine with AR Gold trigger

Thanks for reading.

Regards and good calling,

Mike Healy

My son, Carl, is thirteen and we enjoy coyote calling as often as we are able to make time to get into the field.

Carl didn’t have school on Friday so I took the day off and we went coyote calling.  The window of opportunity was excellent as it was a weekday and Idaho’s rifle season for deer hadn’t opened yet.

In the early afternoon we were calling on a small parcel of state land surrounded by private property and had a very energizing experience with several nearby coyotes.

Our truck was well concealed behind a small hill with a headwind in our favor.  Seated on a hillside with adequate cover and a good view, I placed my Wildlife Technologies electronic caller downhill about 30 paces in front of us.  Instead of hiding the caller in a bush, I placed it in the bottom of a waist-deep sinkhole.

I started the stand with two loud female coyote howls and then paused to listen for a response.  Within 30 seconds a couple of coyotes responded by howling back at us.  They were to our left and just beyond a low hill.  I waited another 30 seconds and played a few red tail hawk screams.  The coyotes to our left responded again.  I then paused for a few seconds of silence to let everything soak in and another coyote started howling directly in front of us.

Scanning the land directly in front of us, I couldn’t see the coyote that was howling.  Carl was seated to my right and I didn’t want to miss any movement on our left flank made by the coyotes that were howling over there.  I shifted my focus to the left and let Carl sort out what was likely unfolding in front of us.

Manipulating the remote control below the level of the sage brush to avoid detection, I lowered the volume and played a squeaky mouse vole distress sound.  The coyotes to the left continued to howl and were obviously upset by the intrusion that my original howl represented.  After a minute of the mouse vole, I silenced the caller.  The coyotes to our left were still howling sporadically.

Struggling to pick out any movement at all, I finally spotted a coyote running from center stage to our left at 500 yards out.  Carl then clicked his safety off.  I figured there was something else going on that I couldn’t see so I went back to watching our left flank.

As we sat motionless with Carl’s safety off, I ran through the following sound sequence two or three times:

1. red tail hawk screams
2. pause
3. crows mobbing a meat pile
4. pause
5. coyote pup distress
6. pause

Amazingly, the coyotes to our left continued to howl during the above sequence.

I then reverted to the mouse vole distress sound on low volume to wait it out and see what was going to happen.  We were in the range of 10 to 12 minutes into the stand when suddenly… BANG!  I shifted my eyes back to the center just in time to see a coyote fall to the ground.  Carl had been monitoring its approach and fired when it stopped at 121 yards from where we were sitting.  He first spotted the coyote at 450 yards and observed its deliberately slow advance for many minutes before taking the shot.

Idaho Coyote, October 2011

Having the caller in the sink hole probably helped us out on this stand.  Coyotes have that amazing ability to pinpoint the precise location on the surface of the earth where a sound is coming from.  In this case, I suspect the coyote felt compelled to get close enough to see into the bottom of the sink hole to conclusively determine the source of the sound.

Regards and thanks for reading,

Mike Healy

The Flextone ECHO eR1 is a new e-caller for the 2010-2011 predator hunting season, but with little more than a month of service in the hunting field, our customers are telling us this compact remote controlled call sounds great, is easy to use, and above all is calling coyotes to their stands.  The Flextone ECHO HD comes preloaded with 100 calling sounds.  More than 90 of the sounds are from Wildlife Technologies and sound very clear—just what you’d expect from a WT sound.  Most of our customers are buying it for predator hunting, but several have been sent to guys intending to use the generous number of deer sounds for calling big bucks.  CLICK HERE to view the sound list.

You can CLICK HERE to view the caller in our Wildlife Callers’ store.

Flextone Echo HD eR1 Predator call and Game Caller

Game Warden Note: Make sure using an electronic call is legal in your area for both predators and big game animals!  It likely is for predators, but might not be for deer—double check your local regulations.

I’ve taken the Flextone ECHO HD out for some field testing with the remote control.  The remote contol has an LCD readout that’s back-lit for night hunting and shows the caller’s volume level on the readout.  The manufacturer states the remote will work up to 300 yards.  If you’re a predator hunter who’s used a remote controlled caller, then you’re likely aware that the advertised effective yardage of the remote control is almost always less in real-world calling setups.  I set the caller up in various positions in rocks, heavy brush, and tall grass, at 20, 50, 75, and 100 yards and from a seated position was able to effectively change sounds, change the volume, and mute the caller without any hesitation from the machine.  The remote has a spot on one of the lower corners to attach a lanyard, reducing the chances of dropping or losing it.

Flextone Echo HD eR1 Top View and Remote Control View

The ECHO eR1 comes with a black carry strap and sports bi-directional twin speakers for maximum volume from the 8AA battery power pack that runs the unit.  You can use the speakers individually or both at the same time.  The remote control is stored in a docking & charging station on the side of the caller.  The caller comes with a 110v charging cord that plugs right into the side of the caller and charges the power pack and the remote at the same time.  The remote control for the eR1 uses a flat Li-Ion rechargeable battery pack that took a while for us to find, but we eventually did.  CLICK HERE to see the battery for the remote control.

Battery Note: The AA batteries that came with the unit charged up just fine, but didn’t last as long as we expected they should.  We bought a set of Energizer AA rechargeable batteries, put them in the caller, charged it overnight, and then let it play for more than 12 hours at volume 2.  The battery life of the unit is great—so long as you use a quality set of batteries.

Overall, the Flextone ECHO HD eR1 is a well thought out, great sounding predator call and game calling machine in the caller class that it’s designed to compete in—actually it costs less and hunters tell us it sounds as good or better than the callers it was designed to compete with.  With a functional & useful remote control and good hunting reports coming in from satisfied customers, this new caller will continue making quick inroads into the e-caller market space.   The next thing to test is the longevity of the machines in field service.  That’s happening all over the US and Canada right now.  Only time will answer that question.

If you have any questions or if you’d like an ECHO HD eR1 sound demo just give us a call.

Good hunting to all,

“The Endangered Species Act does not allow the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service to list only part of a ‘species’ as endangered, or to protect a listed distinct population segment only in part as the Final Rule here does” 

Grey Wolf - US Fish and Wildlife Service

The Idaho Fish and Game Deputy Director reacted quickly to the action by the Federal Government, stating  “We’re frustrated; we’re angry; we’re disappointed.”  “We’ve played by the rules, but his decision allows procedural technicalities to overcome sound science and common sense.”  Governor Butch Otter and his Democratic opponent, Keith Allred, both echoed that sentiment, saying the State of Idaho should have the right to manage it’s wolf population.  

With the current Obama administration seeking a much larger footprint for the federal government, that might be asking a lot. 

Read more here: Idaho Statesman Article  

There were quick calls for an appeal by Gov. Butch Otter who sees the originally assumed numbers of wolves needed for “population sustainability” being conveniently increaseed by radical environmental groups.  In our last blog post on Idaho wolf hunting we feared that continuous efforts with lawsuits could achieve this setback.  However, we at Wildlife Callers, remain confident that the need for Idaho, Montana, and other states, to manage wolves on locally based field science and declining populations of elk, deer, moose, and other prey mammals will eventually win out in the court system.  We’ll keep you informed of this court case as it proceeds.  

We are also keenly aware of the millions of private and taxpayer dollars being spent to keep the wolves from being de-listed and keep them completely untouchable.  But, how small must the ungulate herds get before special interest groups claiming to care about the environment actually allow hunters to balance the wolf population against the deer, elk, and moose populations? 

A Shiras Moose tag in Idaho is already a “once in a lifetime” tag–on par with hunting a Bighorn Sheep in Arizona (currently being eaten to extinction by cougars with the help of “environmentalists”).  The “environmentalists” keep telling us that the gray wolf is a national treasure–we contend the Shiras moose population in the US is too.  Why must one be completely decimated so the other’s population numbers can satisfy an unscientific good feeling about wolves grounded in raw emotion and anti-hunting sentiment? 

For a good article about large wolf populations in the US and Canada (wolves ignore borders), wolf control efforts in Canada, funding for the wolf introduction program, impact to the Yellowstone elk herd, and more click here:  Has The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Become A Rogue Agency? 

Anti-Hunting Ideology… 

What’s very interesting is that when reading an article that’s anti-hunting and pro-wolf, the concerned “environmentalist” almost always makes mention that hunters “only” want to lower the wolf populations so they can continue to hunt elk and deer.  As if that is somehow a bad thing.  The truth is, they are anti-hunters and do think it’s a bad thing.  Given the option, they’d much rather see gray wolves hunt elk and moose to near extinction than to ever see a trophy bull hanging on your wall.  If hunters are free to hunt and kill wolves then the wolves aren’t killing trophy game animals.  

Remember, to an anti-hunter a wolf killing a 6×6 bull elk is beautiful nature and a hunter killing that same bull is premeditated murder.  It’s all part and parcel of an illogical, but well coordinated anti-hunting campaign in our schools (kids are a huge target audience), in our courts, and more and more inside our state and federal game agencies.  

What’s even more interesting is the number of death threats we receive from anti-hunters who read our blog.  Some of them will post a visceral hate for hunting, “animal murder”, guns, and “rednecks” in the same flowing and profane sentence and then follow up with statement that they’d like to “find us in their crosshairs and shoot us in the f#$@#ng head!”  

Irony so thick you could cut it with a Buck knife!

The silver lining… 

Nothing has changed with Idaho’s Fish and Game rules allowing electronic callers, wolf sounds, and antelope, deer, elk, and moose distress and other vocalizations, for hunting wolves.  All we need now is a court ruling that favors the rights of Montana and Idaho to manage their own wildlife.  

When it’s finally time to go hunting we’ll let you know and help you with an Wildlife Technologies e-caller full of real wolf sounds just for the occasion.   Both the Mighty Atom 15 and Mighty Atom 21 game callers can be outfitted for your wolf hunt in the United States or Canada.

Thank you again for reading.  Subscriptions to this blog are free and comments or questions are welcomed below.

Keep up the good fight and good hunting!

Mark Healy